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Thoughts while listening:
Ooooo...theramin sounds! And actual vocals! Very relaxed sound, nice ambience...Don't like the low vocal on "I won't be shaken..." sounds stringy. Nice spicing on the "Take your time..." vocals. Tricky to mess with .wav files like that. I've tried myself, and they always screw up on me.

Thoughts after listening:

Well, I'm an atheist, so commenting on the content would be counter-productive...I have no intention of making enemies when we're all just musicians saying what's important to us. So I'll go on the technical side.

Some Improvements:
-I'm not big on the organ sound (first instrument heard). Sounds a bit too retro to fit in the futuristic/techno soundscape presented.
-Vocals were a bit shaky in the bass-range. Personally, I find this happens when I'm trying to go to low, too loud. I usually whisper bass vocals, and record with a Meteor Mic really close. That way, I can get the volume without sounding like a slowed-down Mickey Mouse.

Some Good Things:
-So refreshing to hear vocals! Damn, I've been reviewing tracks all day, and yours is the first one to include a vocal at all! And you sang them well.
-Loved the theramin-type lead you had going on there. People should play more theramin. Especially me. By which I mean I want to get a theramin. Don't know if that's what you used, but I liked the sound anyways.

Overall: Screw the people who don't give a proper review in the R4R thread. We're here to help eachother become better musicians, not take without giving first!

4/5 R4R

-Ceevro

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SoulSecure responds:

That first synth is a rhodes. I use dated sounds all the time, mostly because I'm dated (beside the fact that rhodes/wurlitzers are extremely common in this genre). I really am not sure how you get a futuristic feel from this considering the instrument selection, but aight.

Vocals shaky on the bass range...? I go lower than that, easily. I sang them quietly and was allowing my voice to creak on purpose for a specific effect.

It was actually REALLY hard to do the chorus high, cuz my voice kept cracking and going off pitch due to singing so quietly (had to record several times). I also didn't want to use vibrato on the high vocals as I hadn't on the low take, but I couldn't help producing a vibrato a couple times, so I stuck with it.

Thoughts while listening:

Hmm...not my usual genre...but damn, that's a dark sound! Reminds me of a sci-fi chase scene. This would be quite in-place in Total Recall. Change at 1:00 was ear-catching. Major/Minor chord change at 1:37 was nicely done. Almost sounded like you were going to go happy there on me for a second...but NOPE! 2:41 just keeps pushing the intensity! This whole thing just feels like battle! Loving the deep, basey undertones. They just give it such a grand rumble. Love the melodody at 5:20...really brings it home. And 'SPOSIONS! Perhaps you should just approach Michael Bay, stick this CD in his hand, and stare at him until he gives you a large sum of money for it.

Thoughts after listening:

Didn't expect that! No sir! The thing is that producing real rough attitude is tried by so very many, but pulled-off by so very few. The issue is one of actually having the balls to attack the music like it needs, I think, and so most people just don't push it far enough. They get lazy, put out a loop, and expect a great review for three minutes of repition. You do not have that problem. I could listen to this several times, and find something new in it each time. A long time ago, I choreographed fight-scenes for stage productions. I would have LOVED to have had a piece like this to choreograph to! I did find a single weakness in the mix that I should mention: The bassey-part that I loved so much in the background really didn't stick out on my speakers. Now, that could be a fault with my speakers, but from where I sit, the bass could have been a tad more pronounced.

4.5/5 R4R

-Ceevro

Thoughts while listening:

19 minutes! What? I hope I don't get interrupted. OK...one minute in...and very slight changes...kinda hypnotic...it's a long song, so you have the time to build, I guess. I recognize the sound of Saturn there...so we've got sounds recorded by radio telescopes. Always a creepy ambience. I can recall spending an hour listening to Jupiter with my brother once. Wonderful to hear that kind of power. Simple build at 330...just what it needs. At 5 mins now...enjoying the ambience. Very hypnotic in quality. 630...begins to sound like something Phill Glass would do. 7 minutes...majour change...and yet so subtle. 9 minutes...just chillin' here...recalling how small I am. This is wonderfully rich, and simple. I'm loving how you really give me time to just sit with and absorb the chords as they come. It's the exact opposite of what jazz players do. 13 minutes. Feels darker now. I don't know if I'm more sitting in the arctic, or floating in the void of space. Dark background sounds at 14 minutes. Like a super-rapid pulsar, or something. Radio telescope sounds to close out, I'm guessing. There is an awful lot going on here, but I don't know that it's you that really gets the credit, to be fair.

Thoughts after listening:

This was rich, powerful, moving. Quite the soundscape. My only problem with it is that I have listened to hours of space sounds, and I'm not sure just how much credit you should really get for this use of them. Where is the line between copying and art, I guess? Now, to your credit, the end result is incredibly moving, so you'll get little complaint from me as a listener. I could sit back and stare into the sky all day with this in a set of headphones. My issue is as a composer, this is minimalistic in the extreme, and perhaps I feel some envy at how simple it truly is to make. But there's the rub, right? I could paint for days and not have the impact of three lines done by Picasso, no matter how much effort went into each. Perhaps the truth is that skill counts more than effort. If effort made one rich, every rickshaw driver in India would be a billionaire.

Overall, this was a fantastic listening experience, and I thank you for it.

4.5/5 R4R

-Ceevro

Fubaka responds:

You are free to give me as much credit as you think I deserve.

Ambient is a fickle beast, and if you feed it too much, it grows stale and confusing. Apart from the space sounds used, however, everything in the song was my own creation.

Thank you for your thoughts. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I will take your implications near the end as a great compliment. However, I'm sure you will agree that the people who originally provided the space sounds deserve more credit by far than I do.

I will addend one last thought though, in accordance with your painting metaphor. Picasso may be able to make moving art with just 3 lines, but he needed the paint in the first place to do it. The space sounds are my paint in this instance. Without them, I couldn't have made this song, but had I not used the paint, it would still just be paint, lovely as it may be.

Thoughts while listening:

Joy To The World! The descending notes in the lead line are a little too close. Love the percs at 46. Nice jazzy percussion going on here...I also love the note-bends. Not many people here use them, because they are difficult to program. Cute ending.

Thought after listening:

Well, Christmas has come, I take it! And here's me listening in the Spring.

Some Suggestions;

-The hip-hop mix-up was actually very well done. I just really wanna hear some real voices in there.
-The descending four notes at the end of the motif are identical to Joy To The World. It sounds like the kind of thing that screenwriters do when they're too cheap to purchase the rights to the real song. Now, either this was your goal, in which case fill your boots, or you wanted to capture the feeling of the piece, but make it original, in which case I would suggest rewriting that little bit of the motif. Your call.
-The sound should be bigger when you go hip-hop on it. Gotta drop that bass to really give it that POW!

Some good things:

-You did definitely achieve the feeling of Christmas Shopping. Especially the ending bit, where I slow down and fall over.
-You have excellent technical mixing skills. String-bends, speed-changes, the works. That is extremely hard to do well, digitally.
-LOVED the percussion on this one. Lots of dynamics, great change-ups, could really feel the effort and love that went into it!

Overall, this is a solid piece that might just need a little tweaking to make it pop. Drop dat bass, throw a rap in, expand this! The build can be made so very huge here, so blow it out of the water!

3.5/5 R4R

-Ceevro

Thoughts while listening:

Not sure I'm big on the initial faux-bass sound, but it does have a certain ambience. Reminds me of the type of music in the old Sega game, Streets Of Rage 2. Kinda feels a little understated. OK, finally we get a lead line at 2 minutes. Aaaaand it's gone by 2:30.

Thoughts after listening:

Well, you've created the title mood, so that's good. I'm not sold on the composition, if I am to be honest, and here's why;
-In a 3:30 second song, there were 3 minutes of, well, repitition. It sounds like you wrote a loop that you liked, and cut/paste it for several minutes, then tried to add slight changes to make it work for the whole time.
-The lead did not work, melodically. I know that you're going for a tension-building sound, but there's a difference between tension and plain wrong notes. It feels like it wasn't planned out, or practiced. It's far too short, and it doesn't go anywhere. There's no resolution. The song definitely needs a lead, and it needs to be the reason for the tension-build-up you have created in the background.
-The original bassline is cool, but it just goes on too long without alteration. A key change or bridge or chorus/verse structure would help a lot here.

Some good things:

-You have a very good background mood. This project is not wasted effort, and could be developed much further.
-Your mixing is quite well-done. Nothing is overdone or lost in the mix.
-The instrumentation actually works well in the song, despite my initial misgivings. That only shows my own bias towards live instrumentation.

Overall, this song is a decent start, but I don't feel that it is a fully finished project. Spend some more time developing a coherant lead, and perhaps look at your structuring. This song currently has only one section, and it could really use some change-ups to bring the original feeling you're trying to express home. Contrast makes the picture clearer.

Hope this helps. 3/5 R4R

-Ceevro

cheezz responds:

The fact that you and I were in the middle of dispute when you wrote this makes me doubt it's entirely objective. I find it a little odd that someone would submit a review at such a time.

Thoughts while listening:

SHADES of Tim Burton! Not many people are composing in 3/4 lately. The build-in at about 30 seconds is wonderful! Love the tuba sound in the waaaaay low! You know, I can tell that you're using synths, but I don't care! I'm having a ball listening to this! Great mood change at 1:30, and then yet ANOTHER at 1:45! WOW! This is so flawlessly composed that it should be in a film! ...You're not writing an actual score, are you?

Thoughts after listening:

Yeah. It was OK.

Just kidding! This was brilliant! Like, the only thing that would make it better would be an actual orchestra! And even then, it's still perfectly fine. Lots of great scene changes, lots of attitude and precarious tension notes. Everything changed constantly, but it all felt like it truly belonged in the piece. Azhthar, my friend, I salute you!

5/5 (first one I've given) R4R

-Ceevro

Azhthar responds:

Hey! Thanks for the nice review. DidnĀ“t get that positive feedback since a while ;) Glad you like it. Yep, an actual orchestra which plays my tracks is not that easy to find sometimes...Maybe I should think about hosting one in my cellar ;) It would great actually.

Thoughts while listening:

Decent wind effect. Doesn't sound cheesy, which is a plus. Piano volume is too high, relative to the rest of the track. Reminds me of Phillip Glass...wait for the changes to happen...they're subtle...I'm thinking that this needs to be longer than 4 mins...we'll see what you do with it to resolve...I love the delay effect on the piano...makes it sound so tappy...

Thoughts after listening:

Great little tune. Again, piano volume was too high off the get-go. You might try easing it in...up the volume as the piano enters. I also feel that while this is minimalist, you have something that you could really milk for a while. Why not push the envelope and make it 20 mins long...add subtle stuff, pull subtle stuff...see how long you can keep this up? I love the mood of the piece, and would like to see it sustained a little longer. There's a lot of potential here, and it's a great tune already!

-Ceevro, R4R

NyxTheShield responds:

I have never exprimented with something so long (Like Philip Glass, i love him hahaha <3) , i would like to give it a shot, maybe something interesting will come out.

Thoughts while listening: Well...that opening grabs the attentions! Lotsa control over the sounds there! I know for a fact that I couldn't duplicate it! For those whip-percussive sounds, I kinda want a massive group of people shouting. Like, if you could get a thousand people shouting "HEY!" at key spots, it would bring out the epic even more.

I'm not usually big on electronic sound, because the dynamics are usually lost. But you seem to have mastered milking every note! Love this. There's so much variety! This is a mile-a-minute, and never boring!

Thoughts after listening:

All I want is a crowd shouting some one-syllable word. That's all the critique I can really give you. This is masterful!

5/5 R4R

-Ceevro

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